I cant know how much you have to go through every day... when you know so much about this (JW)..
ie all falsehoud etc..
I am not sure I couldnt take it my self without exploding...
You must have a wery strong personal agenda right?
(english is aperently not my native langugae...)
i am new here, been lurking for a while but felt compeled to join as i would like to comment on more and more of the topics i come across.
by way of an introduction here is some info about me.. i am an active jw, married with a family, living in the uk.
i serve as a ms and have done for many years.
Welcome!
I was exactly like you 10 years ago..
Then we realized that..
JW is all a lie and crap with roots from the 1800...
the bible is no more than an old book from king Josia that wanted to gather his people and maked therefore up a great history to them.
Investigations has learned me that there is no Jehova either..
we have now faded slowly away
we are not DF or anything, relatives still talk to us but it is limited of course
We moved to another city.
We have new friends outside today... the kids have new better friends and it is going very well for them in their new school..
(sorry for my spelling, english is not my native language..)
Have you read raymond Franz Crisis of Consience?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Franz
I think that was a wery humble but exposure book about JW...
Stick around and write more!
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Bwa ha ha!
You got them alright!
I dont think they will be coming back..
But.. if you not is DF before this... my guess is, they can hunt you down...
rick simons, candace conti's attorney, will be interviewed on the six screens of the watchtower conference phone line this evening.
there's a good chance that candace will join in, but that's not set in stone.
the host of the program, rick, told me to tell everybody that he is learning how to calm down and to do better on these conference calls.
Hi, Sweden here.
Is there a summary somewhere of the main subjects in the calling?
(it should been h... expensive to call in from sweden.)
Or could some person here try to do it for us that was not able to listen?
so over the weekend i was in a cargroup for service, yes i still go out but i dont ring doorbells or knock i just go out to keep wife and other elders off my back, anyway the video came up and i said nothing about it but the other 3 people in the car ( a pioneer and 1 elder, 1 publisher) said that it was good.
yes you heard correctly good!
the pioneer even stated that the annimation was good and it is short enough to hold a young childs attention.
Amelia A :Edited to add that the Spanish and Italian exjw community are eagerly anticipating it being released in their language.
We in Sweden/nordic countries is also waiting for our language eagerly
But we will probably get it among the lasts.. they will only have one big convention-date in the end of July here..
fuck you.. i was raised in a jw family in the 1980's-1990's where we had to do the daily text 7 days a week during breakfast at the family table at 7am sharp between 7:00-7:15am.
this was followed by a "spiritual discussion," which was held every morning between 7:15am and 8:00am.. since we were homeschooled, our weekly field service was required from childhood on friday mornings immediately following the spiritual discussion, followed by saturday afternoon field service after the bookstudy, as well as sunday afternoon field service after the watchtower study.. i was also required to read each watchtower and awake magazine and give oral reports about each magazine i read in order for my father to be sure that i had actually read them.
i can't remember for sure, but i think each watchtower and awake was released every two weeks back then, making a new magazine to read every single week, followed by an oral report on every single article (including the watchtower study articles which i also had to read, then study in our weekly family watchtower study where we marked our answers, then studied again at the sunday watchtower study).. in addition to this, we also had a weekly family bible study at night each week, had a family bookstudy at night in which we marked our answers for the saturday morning bookstudy, had a family watchtower study at night where we marked our answers for the sunday morning watchtower study, had a family prayer together every night before bed, every morning before and after breakfast and every night before and after dinner (not including our half-family prayers for lunch by my mother since we were homeschooled.).
WOW!?
Thanks for that... and that my parents let me have a little more normal life in sweden.
So u are drinking, i can relate to that and understand why.
(i was a hevely drinker myself when i realised that my whole 25 first years was only a total long lie and mostly a waste)
Anyhow.. alcohol it's not good in the longtime... i know for sure that it is hard, but try to stay away from it every day.
Try to limit it to one day first maybe? Friday evening?
i have been lurking on this site for the past 2 months.
for the past few years i have been going to the meetings and doing fieldservice out of guilt.. my husband (twisty) told me regularly i only do it out of guilt but i denied it and said it i want to do these things because i love jehovah and it is the right thing to do, but how can it be the right thing if you don't feel welcome and it feels like everyone is judging you the moment you walk into the kingdom hall.. it has taken a few years and a lot of tears to open my eyes.. over the past few years twisty spoke to me about the various things he didn't agree with but it just went over my head.
a few months ago we were lying in bed and he brought up his concerns again, and i'm not sure what was different this time but i understood and agreed with the points he was making.
Welcome!
Welcome! Do you like horses, Flicka?
Oh.. Yes, that was that movie about a Mustang or something...
But... "Flicka" is also the word for "Girl" in swedish.
please dont be guilty of the sins you have indicted the wt of commiting.
something is common to all on this discussion board, we are quick at castigating the watchtower.
although, i understand your reasons for doing so, but i will warn you not to be guilt of the same offense the wt had committed.
I have been a witness in sweden for 30 years.
You are nuts!
here on this forum there are so many sinners, many here are doing things that will bring god's wrath upon themselves.
consider yourself if you in some aspect fit the description in romans 1:28-32:.
and just as they did not approve of holding god in accurate knowledge, god gave them up to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting, filled as they were with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malicious disposition, being whisperers, backbiters, haters of god, insolent, haughty, self-assuming, inventors of injurious things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, false to agreements, having no natural affection, merciless.
You too Finnish from Sweden?
My parents moved to sweden in the 1940:s from the swedish part outside Vasa, malax.
So they never learned finnish, neither do i.
here on this forum there are so many sinners, many here are doing things that will bring god's wrath upon themselves.
consider yourself if you in some aspect fit the description in romans 1:28-32:.
and just as they did not approve of holding god in accurate knowledge, god gave them up to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting, filled as they were with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malicious disposition, being whisperers, backbiters, haters of god, insolent, haughty, self-assuming, inventors of injurious things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, false to agreements, having no natural affection, merciless.
Yeah... uhum... right.
Kosonen = Finish? (Suomi?)
